Ben Jealous on Defund the Police, Biden's Voting Rights Quandary, and Why Origins are More than Race

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Extremely good vibes in this Thanksgiving conversation between Briahna Joy Gray and former NAACP president, Maryland gubernatorial candidate, professor, and most importantly, Bernie Bro, Ben Jealous. Sometimes it's just nice to let the conversation follow a great conversationalist, and this week, the chat covers the biographical, racial identity, the merits of "defund" as a slogan, Ben's voting rights advocacy and why Biden's dragging his feet on filibuster reform, and a former gubernatorial candidates insights on what Democrats did wrong in Virginia.

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